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Crouchy
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 21:04 on 28th Mar 2010

Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008
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Location: London
Vegan Barnsley Wrote:
We are all barmy army in their eyes polo-shirt or not.


Exactly.
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clarky
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 04:01 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 21:39 on 30th May 2008
Posts: 129
GeorgethePodge Wrote:

Clarky I apologised to you at 4 am in the mornin as you continulosly took my pics as I drifted off in ASIANSR
I used you collectively
Yer alreet with me mate as Im sure I am with you avin sold you a shirt


The 4am apology must have been missed as we were all a bit worse for wear. Anyway, I hadn't even seen the comments then.

But, yes, you're alreet with me, George. And not just because of the shirt.
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wickets
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 04:09 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 22:49 on 30th Apr 2008
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Location: Swindon
I would suggest, and have done, that the Asian SR reception area shouldn't have been turned into a bar in the first place.
Thus there would not have been any handbags at all.
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Welsh Dan
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 07:37 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 15:27 on 12th Oct 2008
Posts: 240
Crouchy Wrote:
Vegan Barnsley Wrote:
We are all barmy army in their eyes polo-shirt or not.


Exactly.


Indeed. For the England players, opposition players, press etc I think "barmy army" pretty much equals "travelling England fans", which is obviously quite a broad church.

I think everyone (well 99% of people) is happy with "barmy army" as an umbrella term for all travelling England fans. The phrase "barmy army" pre-dates any T-shirts or organised tours, and those who sell BA merchandise have never claimed exclusive ownership of the phrase "barmy army" in general conversation as far as I know.

Personally when foreigners ask "are you part of the barmy army?" I normally answer in the positive. If it is in passing, eg at a shop counter (especially with a queue of people behind me!) I'll just say yes to avoid confusing the person. Whereas if I'm asked by someone sat next to me on a plane or at a bar, with lots of time to explain, then I first say yes then start to bore them with a more nuanced answer and see if their eyes glaze over......
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 07:56 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 09:14 on 23rd Apr 2008
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Welsh Dan Wrote:
Personally when foreigners ask "are you part of the barmy army?" I normally answer in the positive. If it is in passing, eg at a shop counter (especially with a queue of people behind me!) I'll just say yes to avoid confusing the person. Whereas if I'm asked by someone sat next to me on a plane or at a bar, with lots of time to explain, then I first say yes then start to bore them with a more nuanced answer and see if their eyes glaze over......


The sad thing is that I bet there was a time not so long ago when you'd have simply said yes, with no more nuanced answer being necessary.
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Welsh Dan
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 08:07 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 15:27 on 12th Oct 2008
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Big Harvey Wrote:
Welsh Dan Wrote:
Personally when foreigners ask "are you part of the barmy army?" I normally answer in the positive. If it is in passing, eg at a shop counter (especially with a queue of people behind me!) I'll just say yes to avoid confusing the person. Whereas if I'm asked by someone sat next to me on a plane or at a bar, with lots of time to explain, then I first say yes then start to bore them with a more nuanced answer and see if their eyes glaze over......


The sad thing is that I bet there was a time not so long ago when you'd have simply said yes, with no more nuanced answer being necessary.


True enough, mate, true enough.
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Eggmanfoo
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 08:09 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 13:35 on 20th May 2008
Posts: 231
[/quote]
are you the same egmanfoo who blagged his way into free food in galle but on return to his seat fell down the aisle and landed 15 ft below with embarassing injuries worse the wear for arrack
listen mate you know the 2 individuals concerened in what was a minor altercation with no further consequences

Instead you come on here pissed up givin it the bigun

what goes on tour stays on tour mate alas not the point with you ...[Personal abuse deleted - Moderator]

if you want to take it any further with me dont play to the fuckin gallery PM me and Il give you my e mail and phone number

and BTW there was NO SHAME affored to anybody and we werent GUESTS we payed 40 fuckin quid same as anybody else for the pleasure of visiting Bangladesh

The AsianSR and the Grand prince made a shit load of money because of my entrepeneurship
I bet your landlady ad a fuckin ball

Im now in Abu Dhabi in a 7 star hotel fuckin lovin it Durham v MCC tomorrrow you enjoy yer fuckin squalor and illicit substances!!!![/quote]

Ah George, I feel honoured that I have been afforded a number of replies from yourself......but I must say that before going off on one, check your facts, and please refrain from mere speculation......
Indeed I did have muchos free food in Galle (note - free food and not free food and booze), and yes in Galle I did slip and fall down a terracing step. However, this was down to some dodgy flip flops and water on the concrete, and not arrack. I think you will find that I rarely drink on cricket tours as I am not a big drinker at all, and certainly not a lunch time drinker. As we have never spent time together on such tours, you have no idea on what i drink and how much I drink, so I will put your allegation down to speculation. Also, there were no injuries as a result of the fall.
I think you will find that I have no named any names on here in relation to any scuffles, fights, etc.....i was merely making my thoughts known....
As for not being guests, and paying 40 quid for a visa, I disagree....we are allowed entry to the country (hence being a guest), and I am sure all will agree we must strive to behave ourselves in countries where physical violence rarely is seen in public, a country that has very limited alcohol consumption, for whatever reason.....
As for being drunk when on the forum, again, there is no evidence to back up your claim.......and I am still scratching my head at your illicit substance comment......
I am sure the money you bought into the 2 establishments mentioned above has made a big difference, and I can see the logic in giving the football fan types and the die hard cricket fans that like a drink, what they want, and well for the baked beans on toast and corn beef toasties, there is nothing like sampling a new culture and local food......
But I see that I can hardly complain, as some people want to be spoon fed a trip and the thoughts of a new, different culture, scares these people (trust me I work with similar people) but at least they can tell their mates that "They did bangladesh" and proudly wear their barmy army desh polo t shirt to the pub.....each to their own, everyone reserves the right to see england play how they like.....I would say opportunity missed though for these people.....So I am sorry for expecting everyone to do things the way I do....

Oh and enjoy Abu Dhabi
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GeorgethePodge
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 08:20 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 00:10 on 25th Apr 2008
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wickets Wrote:
I would suggest, and have done, that the Asian SR reception area shouldn't have been turned into a bar in the first place.
Thus there would not have been any handbags at all.



EH? some of us like to drink in decent surroundings if at all possible

Not in smoky dingy dark surroundings where you couldnt get yer breath, the kitchens were deplorable and the memories of 5 cows gettin slaughtered outside the establishment lingered on

The formation of the Asian SR bar was beneficial for everybody both us and the Bangas

as was the Grand Prince...
Ill forward you the thank you e mails off the mangagements
EFM I will reply in greater detail when I av a little time on my hands and its not costing me
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Eggmanfoo
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 08:22 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 13:35 on 20th May 2008
Posts: 231
Vegan Barnsley Wrote:
Eggmanfoo Wrote:
Imagine the sound of a fishing line zipping out in to the mighty river trent, and there being a big bite.........remind you lot of anything........................... :lol:


I'll bite! Yes some dickhead like you killing fish for the fun of it in the name of sport. Great analogy. You are soooo clever.....

A bunch of coffin-dodgers sitting quietly scoring in the VIP section or some bare-chested, sun-soaking travellers in the 20T seats/terracing. What exactly has Swanny got to thank either of those two groups for?

The players appreciate vocal and visual support when in foreign climes. Barmy Army, Wavy Navy, Wrong-Uns, blah, blah, blah etc. Cricket supporters making a noise and supporting England.

Isn't that what lifts the team and isn't that what Swanny was referring to?

We are all barmy army in their eyes polo-shirt or not.


I dont know, what has he got to thank me for....for turning up to bangladesh to support england? for spending my hard earned cash on doing so? for celebrating when a player gets a 50 or 100, or takes a wicket?
I guess I should just stay at home as my support is worthless, along with the other 50 fans that chose not to sing songs or where the t shirt......and for the record I do not fall into any of the 2 groups you mentioned in your post.....I never take my shirt off......hence the t shirt sun tan.....
WE CLEARY ARE NOT WORTHY.....
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: SWANNY - GREAT JOB SON, BUT OUT OF ORDER
PostPosted: 09:41 on 29th Mar 2010

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2050
Location: Preston UK
I dont know, what has he got to thank me for....for turning up to bangladesh to support england? for spending my hard earned cash on doing so? for celebrating when a player gets a 50 or 100, or takes a wicket?
I guess I should just stay at home as my support is worthless, along with the other 50 fans that chose not to sing songs or where the t shirt......and for the record I do not fall into any of the 2 groups you mentioned in your post.....I never take my shirt off......hence the t shirt sun tan.....
WE CLEARY ARE NOT WORTHY.....[/quote]

Being one of those involved in the 'incident',rightly named by George, I have tried to keep out of this.
I apologise to all who were there, unresevedly. I am ashamed to admit I become far too passionate where my football team is concerned and on this occaion said too much. Apologies to all.
I would have thought anyone as forthright and communicative as EMF would have spoken to me later, having such a strong opinion on behaviour, to indicate his disapproval understandably, and to allow me to apologise as I did to anyone else who broached the subject.
Instead EMF chose the internet option, perhaps for annonimity reasons, I don't know but I was prepared to accept it was just making a point.
Since that time it would appear that EMF has a problem with just about anyone and anything which does'nt fit in with his closeted view of how things should be. The above quote could only be attributable to someone with no understanding of irony (surely he's not an Aussie) and with an enormous chip on his shoulder. The whole point is that you do exactly what makes you happy supporting England on these tours.

It should'nt be difficult to 'track' you down next time, as you will probably be sat on your own doing whatever it is that you feel makes you an inividual with higher meaning than the rest of us. But if you don't mind I will come and speak to you, because I like to know what makes people tick and their individual reasons for touring. In your case to get an understanding of you because the view I have at present is at a low ebb and I'm sure there is more to you than the finger pointing fusspot you appear to be on this thread.
Hope you at least enjoyed the cricket.
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