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| beners | Post subject: why do we only play well against good teams
 Posted: 16:30 on 17th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 20:01 on 23rd Nov 2010 Posts: 21 |
looks like wee will win this one and go on to the super eights three key players out and wee are on course to win this one so why cant we prouduce the same effort against ie ireland etc |
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| Crouchy | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 15:01 on 18th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008 Posts: 2402 Location: London |
Ah, my pet theory: England play well when they are the underdogs. They get confused when they are the better team. |
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| Richhufc | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 18:56 on 18th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 20:35 on 14th May 2008 Posts: 774 Location: Hereford |
Crouchy Wrote: Ah, my pet theory: England play well when they are the underdogs. They get confused when they are the better team. Ashes? |
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| Crouchy | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 11:04 on 19th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008 Posts: 2402 Location: London |
Richhufc Wrote: Crouchy Wrote: Ah, my pet theory: England play well when they are the underdogs. They get confused when they are the better team. Ashes? Yes, that is one example. England went into the Ashes as underdogs. England hadn't won in Australia since 1986-87, the last series was a 5-0 thrashing, our bowling attack was allegedly going to struggle on Australian pitches with a Kookaburra ball, and our batting was allegedly suspect. What happened? England thrashed Australia 3-1, only losing in Perth when suddenly they became favourites to retain the Ashes. After that, there was talk of "momentum" into the ODI series where England would surely "dominate" Australia... whoops, England favourites= poor performances. I reckon England perform best when either a) they have been written off or b) they are coming off a poor performance |
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| Crouchy | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 11:04 on 19th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008 Posts: 2402 Location: London |
Richhufc Wrote: Crouchy Wrote: Ah, my pet theory: England play well when they are the underdogs. They get confused when they are the better team. Ashes? Ashes 2009, too? Headingly? England "finished", etc... they then turn in a great performance at the Oval. Seriously mate, there are so many examples. |
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| Richhufc | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 13:33 on 19th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 20:35 on 14th May 2008 Posts: 774 Location: Hereford |
Crouchy Wrote: Richhufc Wrote: Crouchy Wrote: Ah, my pet theory: England play well when they are the underdogs. They get confused when they are the better team. Ashes? Ashes 2009, too? Headingly? England "finished", etc... they then turn in a great performance at the Oval. Seriously mate, there are so many examples. Everyone I spoke to in Brisbane both Aussie and English prior to the Ashes 2010/11 believed England were favourites going into that series. We had the better bowlers and batsman all of whom were in great form after the warm up games. If your theroy is about past and present England teams, fair enough. But based on this current team I cannot agree with your theroy. And the Oval 2009, as brilliant as that display was, was mainly thanks to winning a crucial toss. EDIT - Your point is spot on about this current set up bouncing back from a poor display though. |
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| Crouchy | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 10:10 on 20th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008 Posts: 2402 Location: London |
At Oval 2009. I had corporate on day one through work and Alec Stewart spoke to us. He said "win the toss, put 500 on the board, it's a great batting wicket out there". Just goes to show! |
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| wickets | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 07:51 on 28th Mar 2011 |
Joined: 22:49 on 30th Apr 2008 Posts: 1026 Location: Swindon |
ing seen the QF Mr Benners I would suggest that we don't play well against good teams. |
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| Crouchy | Post subject: Re: why do we only play well against good teams
Posted: 19:43 on 31st Mar 2011 |
Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008 Posts: 2402 Location: London |
wickets Wrote: ing seen the QF Mr Benners I would suggest that we don't play well against good teams. Not on their home turf, in their home conditions, against their best team, with our team half-injured and half-knackered, no. They did well to haphazardly lurch that far. |
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