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whiteensign
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 11:44 on 29th May 2010

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whiteensign Wrote:
I'd put money on Warwickshire to get relegated this year :cry:


So far so bad, though 2 wins under their belts still bottom of the league, yet top of the 40 over league!!!
On the subject of 40 over cricket, this seems to have totally replaced the 50 over competition, a great idea considering 40 over cricket isn't played at international level, and it's the year before a world cup!!! I realise as a team England will be playing a hell of alot of 50 over cricket between now and then, but it would be good in my opinion for everyone else to be playing just incase they're needed.
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 06:20 on 9th Jun 2010

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Middlesex's improvement seems to have hit the buffer stops with a lame home defeat against Northants. Still, at least it wasn't by an innings (unlike that team from South of the river)! Our batsmen did at least put up some semblance of a fight on the final day in bowler-friendly conditions, although what Owais Shah was doing getting out caught on the boundary trying to hit a towering six just when we looked like saving the game only he knows. We were missing our three England stars of course, but such is life in English domestic cricket, unfortunately.

By the way, regarding that team from South of the river, although I don't tend to pay much attention to T20, their 10 wicket defeat last night was pretty spectacular, especially considering their squad appears to have been (expensively) assembled precisely with that format in mind! I'm not surprised their chairman wants franchise T20 to replace the current system if that's the best they can come up with! ;)
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pete.h
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 18:47 on 29th Jun 2010

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Big Harvey Wrote:
Middlesex's improvement seems to have hit the buffer stops with a lame home defeat against Northants. Still, at least it wasn't by an innings (unlike that team from South of the river)! Our batsmen did at least put up some semblance of a fight on the final day in bowler-friendly conditions, although what Owais Shah was doing getting out caught on the boundary trying to hit a towering six just when we looked like saving the game only he knows. We were missing our three England stars of course, but such is life in English domestic cricket, unfortunately.

By the way, regarding that team from South of the river, although I don't tend to pay much attention to T20, their 10 wicket defeat last night was pretty spectacular, especially considering their squad appears to have been (expensively) assembled precisely with that format in mind! I'm not surprised their chairman wants franchise T20 to replace the current system if that's the best they can come up with! ;)


Harv, I have just returned home from the second day of Glos Middlesex at Bristol. I am sorry to sasy this (for your sake) but I have never witnessed a professional team looking like such a shambles as what I saw today. At various times I noted:

1. Pedro Collins being totally shit, and getting booed for producing 4 consequtive, misdirected, short balls in a row - ending in a predictable no ball.

2. One of your players leaving the field, only to be called back on by the umpires. Given his reluctance to do the umpires the favour of going up to them for the ensuing chat we got to witness the umpires loudly admonishing him for leaving the field without permission, seemingly having decided that following the rules does not matter.

3. A wicketkeeper who dropped the ball more than he held it when standing up the stumps

4. On at least 7 occasions (for I, sadly, began to count) the ball being thrown round between the fielders on its way back to the bowler being missed - sending the ball off towards the boundary to be fetched

5. Despite an awful lot of overs being bowled by spinners and medium pacers with short run ups the over rate reaching -4, possibly stemming from #4 and leading to #6...

6. Your captain having to spend the last hour of the day shouting at his players "quickly around to your positions" at the end of every over... very village

7. The fine leg fielder having on two occasions to shout at other outfielders "left hand bat" or "right hand bat" to get them to move into position

Not sure if this is normal at Middlesex... but I would be annoyed if my cricket team gave off such a disorganised impression.
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 20:38 on 29th Jun 2010

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pete.h Wrote:
Harv, I have just returned home from the second day of Glos Middlesex at Bristol. I am sorry to sasy this (for your sake) but I have never witnessed a professional team looking like such a shambles as what I saw today. At various times I noted:

1. Pedro Collins being totally shit, and getting booed for producing 4 consequtive, misdirected, short balls in a row - ending in a predictable no ball.

2. One of your players leaving the field, only to be called back on by the umpires. Given his reluctance to do the umpires the favour of going up to them for the ensuing chat we got to witness the umpires loudly admonishing him for leaving the field without permission, seemingly having decided that following the rules does not matter.

3. A wicketkeeper who dropped the ball more than he held it when standing up the stumps

4. On at least 7 occasions (for I, sadly, began to count) the ball being thrown round between the fielders on its way back to the bowler being missed - sending the ball off towards the boundary to be fetched

5. Despite an awful lot of overs being bowled by spinners and medium pacers with short run ups the over rate reaching -4, possibly stemming from #4 and leading to #6...

6. Your captain having to spend the last hour of the day shouting at his players "quickly around to your positions" at the end of every over... very village

7. The fine leg fielder having on two occasions to shout at other outfielders "left hand bat" or "right hand bat" to get them to move into position

Not sure if this is normal at Middlesex... but I would be annoyed if my cricket team gave off such a disorganised impression.


We're missing most of our first choice players through international call-ups, injury, and - in the case of Stephen Finn - bizarrely being put on a 6-week strength and fitness course by the ECB. Obviously the ECB thinks that its not important for cricketers to play cricket during our short cricket season. I'm all in favour of them ensuring fast bowlers are rested from time to time, but for 6 whole weeks?!!!

Davey and Roland-Jones are both making their County Championship debuts in this match.

Not the easiest situation for Dexter to step into his first game as captain, and I think all Middlesex fans were expecting the team to struggle a bit.

As for Pedro Collins, I thought he bowled pretty well yesterday, but went off with what looked like back spasms early on today, and was never any good thereafter.
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pete.h
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 20:56 on 29th Jun 2010

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Big Harvey Wrote:
We're missing most of our first choice players through international call-ups, injury, and - in the case of Stephen Finn - bizarrely being put on a 6-week strength and fitness course by the ECB. Obviously the ECB thinks that its not important for cricketers to play cricket during our short cricket season. I'm all in favour of them ensuring fast bowlers are rested from time to time, but for 6 whole weeks?!!!

Davey and Roland-Jones are both making their County Championship debuts in this match.

Not the easiest situation for Dexter to step into his first game as captain, and I think all Middlesex fans were expecting the team to struggle a bit.

As for Pedro Collins, I thought he bowled pretty well yesterday, but went off with what looked like back spasms early on today, and was never any good thereafter.


Ah ha, it begins to make sense! I think on balance I would still be fairly disappointed at quite the level of disarray shown today (from professionals after all - even experienced second XI cricketers should be able to stand up to the stumps and throw the ball back to the bowler) but, having struggled personally in my first few games as captain this season (in ways I never imagined!), I think I can agree that there are some pretty significant mitigating factors working here and can feel for Dexter.

As for the ECBs "management" of the England squad... I am at a loss. Bowlers-cum-commentators seem, to a man, to be baffled by their policies; Anderson has expressed his distaste for the management of his workload; and ultimately both the counties and their fans get short changed.

Today was the only day of this game I could make...so I wouldnt mind seeing your opinion of how things happen over the next two days if you are in attendance? Had I known you were there today I would have tried to arrange to put a face to the name, and a pint to the hand.

Pete
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 21:11 on 29th Jun 2010

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pete.h Wrote:
Had I known you were there today I would have tried to arrange to put a face to the name, and a pint to the hand.


Likewise.

Unfortunately I can't make days 3 and 4 due to work.
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pete.h
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 21:16 on 29th Jun 2010

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On a different note, a very interesting and insightful article I stumbled upon:

http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/conten ... 63484.html
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pete.h
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 21:20 on 29th Jun 2010

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And on another (another) note... does anyone have any insight into the true goings on which have led to David Smith Resigning from Leics?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... ation.html

I dont know an awful lot about him, but thought the general vibe around Leics was good in that, despite propping up the table, it was considered part of a very positive long term plan to stop relying on Kolpak players and get on with developing some of the very promising youth they have?
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Crouchy
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 22:06 on 29th Jun 2010

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Putting Finn on a "strength and conditioning course" rather than letting him play county cricket for the season is a crap idea.
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: county cricket
PostPosted: 22:36 on 29th Jun 2010

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Crouchy Wrote:
Putting Finn on a "strength and conditioning course" rather than letting him play county cricket for the season is a crap idea.


He certainly seemed to agree. Running backwards and forwards between cones next to the boundary rope as his Middlesex teammates toiled in the field with a second-string bowling attack on a pitch that would have suited him he looked thoroughly hacked off.
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