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Crouchy
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 17:14 on 20th Aug 2010

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Deano Wrote:
Crouchy Wrote:
I don't want to get side-tracked into the vice captaincy issue, as it might cool my ardor to storm Essex and toss Cook out of the England side. He is consistently failing to score runs or build a platform for the batsmen lower down the order. I'd drop him like a shot and give Carberry/Trott/Key/whoever a trial before the summer ends.

I reject the notion that you need a vice captain for a stable and orderly transition. Strauss is a superb captain and his transition was about as stable and orderly as a blancmange.

Cook OUT!


Still want to give Carberry/Trott/Key a shot Crouchy? :P


Yes. Yes, I do.

I would have opened with Carberry or maybe Trott for this Test and the next. It's supposed to be a summer of experimentation, I'd quite like to know who is the next opener in line. Nobody seems to know.

Cook did very, very well today but one century does not indicate good form, just as a single failure does not indicate a lack of form. Let's see how he does in the next Test before we get overly-excited, shall we?
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Crouchy
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 17:16 on 20th Aug 2010

Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008
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Location: London
Deano Wrote:
Sorry Crouchy, not picking on you me old mukka, just that it's too irresistable not to point out that you were WRONG! ;) You're not alone mind. In fact you were probably in the majority......

Oh happy days. nananananananana Ali Ali Cook Ali Cook Ali Ali Cook.....

Not saying he is now the best batsman in the world or anything. But surely there was never any doubt that he should at least be given The Oval and Lords to get runs. And there was never any doubt in my mind that he should also start in Brisbane. Bring along another opener to Oz by all means as competition, but to say Cook should have been dropped now was far too premature. All just my opinion mind....


One swallow does not a summer make!
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Huey Lad
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 17:18 on 20th Aug 2010

Joined: 18:02 on 23rd Apr 2008
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blueandy1mac Wrote:
Huey Lad Wrote:
Interesting how such a technically flawed out of form player picked up a ton when all these in form players with a tight technique don't look like they are going to make 110 between them!


Cynic - they have now ............just. :(



Cook 110
Extras 12
Rest of them (so far) 99

= 221/9
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Richhufc
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 17:31 on 20th Aug 2010

Joined: 20:35 on 14th May 2008
Posts: 774
Location: Hereford
Crouchy Wrote:
Deano Wrote:
Sorry Crouchy, not picking on you me old mukka, just that it's too irresistable not to point out that you were WRONG! ;) You're not alone mind. In fact you were probably in the majority......

Oh happy days. nananananananana Ali Ali Cook Ali Cook Ali Ali Cook.....

Not saying he is now the best batsman in the world or anything. But surely there was never any doubt that he should at least be given The Oval and Lords to get runs. And there was never any doubt in my mind that he should also start in Brisbane. Bring along another opener to Oz by all means as competition, but to say Cook should have been dropped now was far too premature. All just my opinion mind....


One swallow does not a summer make!


Nobody is saying that. But your COOK OUT over the top rubbish opens yourself up for mocking. 13 test hundreds including tons overseas in India, Australia, South Africa and Sri lanka all show he isn't a 'one swallow' player.
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Riff
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 18:14 on 20th Aug 2010

Joined: 12:38 on 12th Nov 2008
Posts: 754
Crouchy Wrote:
One swallow does not a summer make!



I had a girlfriend like that once too! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Hector
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 09:27 on 21st Aug 2010

Joined: 19:34 on 29th May 2008
Posts: 1227
Location: Somerset
Richhufc Wrote:
Crouchy Wrote:
Deano Wrote:
Sorry Crouchy, not picking on you me old mukka, just that it's too irresistable not to point out that you were WRONG! ;) You're not alone mind. In fact you were probably in the majority......

Oh happy days. nananananananana Ali Ali Cook Ali Cook Ali Ali Cook.....

Not saying he is now the best batsman in the world or anything. But surely there was never any doubt that he should at least be given The Oval and Lords to get runs. And there was never any doubt in my mind that he should also start in Brisbane. Bring along another opener to Oz by all means as competition, but to say Cook should have been dropped now was far too premature. All just my opinion mind....


One swallow does not a summer make!


Nobody is saying that. But your COOK OUT over the top rubbish opens yourself up for mocking. 13 test hundreds including tons overseas in India, Australia, South Africa and Sri lanka all show he isn't a 'one swallow' player.


If you look at the ICC rankings, KP is the only batsman in the top 20. Cook is the 6th best English batsman at No 33, with Trott and Morgan still building up their points. Logic suggests that you cut from the bottom, so it should be Cook out first.
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dazntfc
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 10:02 on 21st Aug 2010

Joined: 10:08 on 10th May 2008
Posts: 2170
Broad out.
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pete.h
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 10:09 on 21st Aug 2010

Joined: 11:46 on 16th Jul 2008
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England OUT!
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pete.h
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 10:11 on 21st Aug 2010

Joined: 11:46 on 16th Jul 2008
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Heres hoping that before lunch we can add "Yousef OUT" to this thread.... I put a rather patriotic tenner on England to win yesterday at the height of our woes... relying on the Pakistani self-destruct button coming out today... not feeling so confident now though, I fancied us to set them 200.
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Crouchy
Post subject: Re: Cook OUT!
PostPosted: 10:57 on 21st Aug 2010

Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008
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Location: London
Richhufc Wrote:
Crouchy Wrote:
One swallow does not a summer make!


Nobody is saying that. But your COOK OUT over the top rubbish opens yourself up for mocking. 13 test hundreds including tons overseas in India, Australia, South Africa and Sri lanka all show he isn't a 'one swallow' player.


Plenty of people seem to be saying in an equally over the top way that one innings means that we forget a run of poor form that has lasted all summer and arguably much longer than that.

Mocking? Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

As I said in Barnsley a few weeks ago and at the start of this thread in teeny tiny text, Cook won't be dropped no matter how bad his run of form is - because everyone in the England setup thinks he's great. My point is that Cook's position in the team has been guaranteed for too long, while the media bleat on about Trott OUT and KP OUT and <insert-name-here>OUT. No doubt Morgan will start getting it after this match, and Bell must be pleased! By doing nothing, he looks a better batsman doesn't he?

Anyway, let's close this off by saying that we all hope Cook kicks on from here, gets another ton in the final Test and finally scores some big runs against Australia this winter. That's what is important here, no?
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