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Hector
Post subject: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 09:47 on 15th Jul 2012

Joined: 19:34 on 29th May 2008
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Location: Somerset
Predicted by most people, so no great suprise. Takes Bairstow's place (no great suprise either).

I guess he's in because of his one day form. Since his test 100 in 2009 Bopara has had 9 test innings averaging less than 20. In his last 9 one day games he averages over 60.

Drinking at the last chance saloon (again)?
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 12:08 on 15th Jul 2012

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2172
Location: Preston UK
TBF he deserves his chance. Granted one day form is'nt necessarily a pointer to test form, but its at least an indication of how you perform against good quality opposition.
He's had his chances and not taken them, this MAY be his last one, best of luck to him.
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bishbash
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 10:39 on 16th Jul 2012

Joined: 12:03 on 4th Jul 2011
Posts: 521
I possibly would've gone for Morgan - I think he's less likely to be affected by pressure despite his troubles in UAE. But can't have too many complaints about picking Ravi. LIke Bell I have doubts about his mental strength and will have little faith in him coming in at 40/4 but good luck to him all the same.
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Crouchy
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 22:22 on 16th Jul 2012

Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008
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Location: London
James Taylor should have had the nod. Bopara had his chances in the Test team and fluffed them.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 17:10 on 18th Jul 2012

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Crouchy Wrote:
James Taylor should have had the nod. Bopara had his chances in the Test team and fluffed them.


i knew this thread would bring him back, just could'nt resist it eh Crouchy ;)
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Mindle
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 19:23 on 18th Jul 2012

Joined: 23:10 on 15th Nov 2010
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Crouchy Wrote:
James Taylor should have had the nod. Bopara had his chances in the Test team and fluffed them.


Maybe it should have been taylor ,but perhaps you slating ravi may help him score a few runs . Just like it did for Ally Cook.
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 03:23 on 19th Jul 2012

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
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Location: Australia
I'm comfortable enough with Ravi's inclusion now I think, I can't see why he can't transpose that ODI form into the test arena. Although, Steyn, Morkel and Philander are going to be significantly tougher than anything he's ever faced.

I know it's not going to happen but I would still prefer to see Finn brought in for a 5 prong bowling attack though. Anyone else got thoughts on that and why the camp seems so dead against it??
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Richard
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 21:29 on 19th Jul 2012

Joined: 22:35 on 18th Nov 2008
Posts: 108
addtamx Wrote:
I'm comfortable enough with Ravi's inclusion now I think, I can't see why he can't transpose that ODI form into the test arena. Although, Steyn, Morkel and Philander are going to be significantly tougher than anything he's ever faced.

I know it's not going to happen but I would still prefer to see Finn brought in for a 5 prong bowling attack though. Anyone else got thoughts on that and why the camp seems so dead against it??


It's not as if we're struggling to bowl teams out with four bowlers.
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 23:36 on 19th Jul 2012

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
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Richard Wrote:

It's not as if we're struggling to bowl teams out with four bowlers.


That seems to be the justification coming from the England camp, but that is easily countered by saying.....it's not as if we've had any useful contributions from the No 6 bat for the last couple of years.

SA have 4 of the worlds top 10 batsmen in their line up, as amazing as they've been for the last 2 years our bowling attack hasn't faced that depth and strength up until now.

A lot of talk being made of late about managing work loads, it seems to me that a 5th bowling option would do more for looking after Jimmy, Broad etc than sitting out a game every 10.
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samcrewe
Post subject: Re: Ravi's back
PostPosted: 01:49 on 20th Jul 2012

Joined: 20:35 on 23rd Apr 2008
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Crouchy Wrote:
James Taylor should have had the nod. Bopara had his chances in the Test team and fluffed them.

To be fair to Ravi though, his failures were when he was dumped in the previously troublesome number three spot. I've never seen him as a number 3. This number 6 spot suits his game I think, so if he can't make runs there then I agree he will have had his chances.
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