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asteve
Post subject: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 08:58 on 11th Dec 2012

Joined: 17:09 on 15th May 2008
Posts: 158
2 nights ago in the Super Pub in Kolkata an English guy called Kev walked out without paying his bill. People told me it wasn't an oversight, he knew what he was doing, it was his last night in Kolkata. The bill was over 2,000rs and, as usually happens on the subcontinent, the waiter involved is being held responsible for the outstanding amount. Last night the waiter told me IF he keeps his job it will take 2 months to pay off the money. He is married and has kids. Anybody who knows Kev can pm me and I will send them the waiter's name and the pub's address, where he can send the money.
Steve.
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Jeeder2
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 10:59 on 11th Dec 2012

Joined: 21:59 on 8th Dec 2011
Posts: 103
Intentionally not paying is wholly out of order. However, I would just add one word of caution to this because I had a similar incident in the Big Ben pub at Kenilworth hotel in Kolkata on the night of 1st day's play.

Was in the bar the night before with brother & friends and paid up our bill when happy hour finished which was 2,700 rupees then had another couple and left. Genuinely forgot to pay the remaining bill of 1,000 rupees and realised in the morning so went back there straight away the following evening to settle up. We were then presented with both bills (including the 2,700 we had already paid). An embarassing exchange of views then ensued with the barman which the whole bar could hear and whilst I remained polite I was annoyed that we were being ripped off.

We also got the story about the barman having to pay it. So frankly, without either us or the barman having any documented proof to back up our respective stories then to avoid the continued embarrassment of arguing in a busy pub and having people believe that we were trying to rip off the barman we very very very reluctantly paid up the GBP£30 and then refused to return to the place for the remainder of the week.

I am a totally honest bloke and would never knowingly not pay for anything, hence returned as soon as I had realised to pay what I owed. But to have that taken advantage of was infuriating.

SO, if this 'Kev' bloke has knowingly walked off then is totally out of order. But if the barman is trying the same scam that he tried on us then the bloke is possibly innocent.

From that night on, I made sure I got a receipt each time I settled a bill. Worth doing if you are in Nagpur for last Test
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kev
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 15:18 on 11th Dec 2012

Joined: 17:06 on 4th Dec 2008
Posts: 279
Location: Walsall West Midlands
Time to put the record straight if i may. They clearly wouldn't have allowed me to simply walk out without paying or are you suggesting i sneaked out at an opportune moment?
Yes there was a ruck over the bill as there pretty much always is 'cos they havent got a clue who has had what & are always putting people's drinks on the wrong bill. My bill should have been about 1000-1100 rupees but they'd put some of the beers of the 2 lads i was with on it. The 2 lads were still there & would have settled up when they left.
i had 1500 rupees on me & (wanting to keep 400 or so for the airport etc) i gave them 1100 which is about what it should have been to start with. The one guy followed me outside & said i haven't paid enough so just to end the situation i gave him £10 English & surprise surprise away he went presumably with my tenner firmly in his pocket.
They don't operate with a waiter per table anyway as all the waiters serve all the tables so i'm not sure how they could single out one waiter to blame if any bill wasn't fully paid up.
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Huey Lad
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 15:06 on 11th Dec 2012

Joined: 18:02 on 23rd Apr 2008
Posts: 664
kev Wrote:
Time to put the record straight if i may. They clearly wouldn't have allowed me to simply walk out without paying or are you suggesting i sneaked out at an opportune moment?
Yes there was a ruck over the bill as there pretty much always is 'cos they havent got a clue who has had what & are always putting people's drinks on the wrong bill. My bill should have been about 1000-1100 rupees but they'd put some of the beers of the 2 lads i was with on it. The 2 lads were still there & would have settled up when they left.
i had 1500 rupees on me & (wanting to keep 400 or so for the airport etc) i gave them 1100 which is about what it should have been to start with. The one guy followed me outside & said i haven't paid enough so just to end the situation i gave him £10 English & surprise surprise away he went presumably with my tenner firmly in his pocket.
They don't operate with a waiter per table anyway as all the waiters serve all the tables so i'm not sure how they could single out one waiter to blame if any bill wasn't fully paid up.


If you PM your address to Steve he might kindly pass it on to the bar so they know where to send your tenner.

Smiley thing.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 16:55 on 11th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2169
Location: Preston UK
This is hardly an unusual event in the normal course of touring. In my experience very often the waiters/owners try it on simply because they think that we won't have a clue or don't care due to the beverage consumed. Of course sometimes we are responsible for messing up our own accounts, me included. It can just happen.
Anyone who knows Kev, and I'm amazed you don't Steve, will tell you he is an upstanding individual who would'nt dream of cheating anyone and particularly not a poorly paid Indian lad trying to make a living.
I'm sure young Bilal's family in Chittagong would be more than happy to provide a character reference.
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Richhufc
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 19:01 on 11th Dec 2012

Joined: 20:35 on 14th May 2008
Posts: 774
Location: Hereford
Me and Union Dave were also given the same story in our hotel bar (Landmark?) during the World Cup. We were the only ones in the bar watching the Irish game in Bangladesh and spent a few hours happily supping away as you do. At the end of the night we came to settle up, only for the young barman to claim we had drunk 30 smaller Kingfisher beers between us! Now Dave likes a drink and I was several months into a RTW trip so was pretty well trained up on supping, but if we'd have drunk that much we'd have been asleep in a puddle of our own vomit! We'd had 15-20 small Kingfisher beers tops.

On refusing to pay, the Manager also tried the 'poor barman has kids and family and will have to pay the difference' trick. I paid what we beleived we'd had and left without feeling at all guilty, as the manager had clearly tried to make us feel.

Seems a common trick round my least favourite City in thw world.
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kev
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 16:51 on 13th Dec 2012

Joined: 17:06 on 4th Dec 2008
Posts: 279
Location: Walsall West Midlands
This non story seems to have gone very quiet. I've spoken to several people who, unlike Steve, were actually in the bar at the time & they all confirm what i said. The guys i was sitting with also paid for a couple of "extra" kingfishers that were put on their bill just to avoid the fuss.
Andy Mac, thanks for your comments they are much appreciated.
Steve, feel free to apologize when you next have access to wi-fi (I'm sure lack of wi-fi is the only thing that has prevented you from apologizing thus far) but i would ask you to please get your facts straight before naming names in stories such as this on a public forum in future.
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fernando
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 10:20 on 14th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
Posts: 1880
kev Wrote:
This non story seems to have gone very quiet. I've spoken to several people who, unlike Steve, were actually in the bar at the time & they all confirm what i said. The guys i was sitting with also paid for a couple of "extra" kingfishers that were put on their bill just to avoid the fuss.
Andy Mac, thanks for your comments they are much appreciated.
Steve, feel free to apologize when you next have access to wi-fi (I'm sure lack of wi-fi is the only thing that has prevented you from apologizing thus far) but i would ask you to please get your facts straight before naming names in stories such as this on a public forum in future.


Having read the "Story",it looks as though Steve should be asking questions to the "people" who told him.
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Maidenover
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 16:50 on 14th Dec 2012

Joined: 09:13 on 23rd Apr 2008
Posts: 2913
fernando Wrote:
Having read the "Story",it looks as though Steve should be asking questions to the "people" who told him.
Agree that Steve appears to have been stitched up, if not the same way as it was tried with Kev, the intention was to deceive everyone who frequented the place, either at the time or since. Wide berth next time and publicise the scam widely ...
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peterw
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 19:59 on 14th Dec 2012

Joined: 23:05 on 21st Jan 2011
Posts: 104
Reading this string reminded me of an incident that took part in the Waterfront, Cape Town during the 09/10 series

Myself and two mates decided to treat ourselves with a steak lunch with a few beers as we were due to leave CT the following day following the test defeat at Newlands.

Following a nice meal ( nothing special ), we paid the bill, adding what was about 9% tip. It just so happened it was a nice round figure to give.

The waiter walked away, and then returned asking why we were unhappy ? We replied we were not to which came the retort, " Well you have failed to give a 10% tip so it must have been bad". He carried on berating us .... we aked to speak to the manager. In the meantime a crowd was forming ( We were seated outside ).... The manager arrived and told us that as he paid very poor wages, the waiters relied on big tips !

As stated, the service was average, and given we were about 20 rand short of 10% thought that was sufficient. We were due to leave the following day and were concious we needed notes to get to the airport...... a heated discussion took place at which point we got up and walked away, handing over no more money in principle having been berated from more than one employee of the restuarant

Slightly similiar to the thread, but jogged my memory..... needless to say we never returned to that particular restaurant, but have been back to CT since

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