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whiteensign
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 20:06 on 14th Dec 2012

Joined: 22:13 on 23rd Apr 2008
Posts: 1266
Location: Redditch/Sydney
Bloody Olbyiun fans again ;)


Yam suffering from vertigo ;)
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fernando
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 21:11 on 14th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
Posts: 1838
peterw Wrote:
Reading this string reminded me of an incident that took part in the Waterfront, Cape Town during the 09/10 series

Myself and two mates decided to treat ourselves with a steak lunch with a few beers as we were due to leave CT the following day following the test defeat at Newlands.

Following a nice meal ( nothing special ), we paid the bill, adding what was about 9% tip. It just so happened it was a nice round figure to give.

The waiter walked away, and then returned asking why we were unhappy ? We replied we were not to which came the retort, " Well you have failed to give a 10% tip so it must have been bad". He carried on berating us .... we aked to speak to the manager. In the meantime a crowd was forming ( We were seated outside ).... The manager arrived and told us that as he paid very poor wages, the waiters relied on big tips !

As stated, the service was average, and given we were about 20 rand short of 10% thought that was sufficient. We were due to leave the following day and were concious we needed notes to get to the airport...... a heated discussion took place at which point we got up and walked away, handing over no more money in principle having been berated from more than one employee of the restuarant

Slightly similiar to the thread, but jogged my memory..... needless to say we never returned to that particular restaurant, but have been back to CT since

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I could have sworn we drew the Newlands Test. ;) ;)
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peterw
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 21:31 on 14th Dec 2012

Joined: 23:05 on 21st Jan 2011
Posts: 99
I knew I could rely on Fernando to help me out....... I am getting my CT trips mixed up...... :roll:
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 11:24 on 15th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2050
Location: Preston UK
Milder man than me Pete, would have 'advised' both of 'em about who pays what with who's money.
What sort of person justifies YOU tipping his staff because he pays s..t wages. Typifies the attitude I came across a lot in the US where a similar 'system' prevails. Lots of particularly young septics believing a large tip was their divine right irrespective of the service level.
Be interesting to see the level of good service in NZ where tipping is not the norm.
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Cuthbert Rizla
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 16:27 on 15th Dec 2012

Joined: 20:14 on 21st Mar 2012
Posts: 182
I find it hard to believe that any regular BA tourer or indeed anyone who has taken the time and money to travel a long distance to watch the team would deliberately try to fleece a bar out of money.

The unwritten rule of touring with regard to proper order even when drunk has always been adhered to in my experience.

Standards have to be kept even when touring in 3rd world countries like Australia.
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peterw
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 16:57 on 16th Dec 2012

Joined: 23:05 on 21st Jan 2011
Posts: 99
In my example above, I susepct being totally un prepared for what was to come, we took the diplomatic route.

We did try to get our money back and re pay without a tip but they were ready for that and refused......... After all, it ultimately end up a big row over 20 rand.... once again it became a matter of priciple though

We also had an "incident" in Dunes in Hout Bay where we sat and ate and drunk for a while, and them moved within the bar. It seems the waiter server system was totally put out of sync and they asked us to settle the bill to that point, ensuring that particular waiter got their tip before another waiter working in the area we moved took over looking after us !

I have lived in and around London all my life and never came across this before or since, maybe I just do not eat/drink in those places, if indeed they exist !

Looking forward to my trip to NZ for the three tests and hope, as mentioned above, that this is not something the Kiwi's will try ! ;)
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fernando
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 20:11 on 16th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
Posts: 1838
peterw Wrote:
In my example above, I susepct being totally un prepared for what was to come, we took the diplomatic route.

We did try to get our money back and re pay without a tip but they were ready for that and refused......... After all, it ultimately end up a big row over 20 rand.... once again it became a matter of priciple though

We also had an "incident" in Dunes in Hout Bay where we sat and ate and drunk for a while, and them moved within the bar. It seems the waiter server system was totally put out of sync and they asked us to settle the bill to that point, ensuring that particular waiter got their tip before another waiter working in the area we moved took over looking after us !

I have lived in and around London all my life and never came across this before or since, maybe I just do not eat/drink in those places, if indeed they exist !

Looking forward to my trip to NZ for the three tests and hope, as mentioned above, that this is not something the Kiwi's will try ! ;)


I'll make sure that i'm not in a round with you. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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asteve
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 09:42 on 19th Dec 2012

Joined: 17:09 on 15th May 2008
Posts: 158
Sorry for not following up my original post but I've been travelling for a week or so and haven't had net access.
I was in the pub the night of the incident and the guy in question had been sitting near me. I didn't recognise him and it was only later, when asked if I knew him, that I found out he'd left without paying his bill. There was no argument about the bill, he just buggered off.
Apologies to Kev (on here) for any misunderstanding about a clearly separate incident.
The waiter has kept his job but is having his salary docked.
Steve.
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Huey Lad
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 13:52 on 19th Dec 2012

Joined: 18:02 on 23rd Apr 2008
Posts: 664
asteve Wrote:
Sorry for not following up my original post but I've been travelling for a week or so and haven't had net access.
I was in the pub the night of the incident and the guy in question had been sitting near me. I didn't recognise him and it was only later, when asked if I knew him, that I found out he'd left without paying his bill. There was no argument about the bill, he just buggered off.
Apologies to Kev (on here) for any misunderstanding about a clearly separate incident.
The waiter has kept his job but is having his salary docked.
Steve.


To encounter one dispute over a 2000 rupee bill with an Englishman named Kev in a bar in Calcutta may be regarded as a misfortune, to encounter two in the same evening looks like carelessness.
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kev
Post subject: Re: Super Pub Incident
PostPosted: 15:21 on 19th Dec 2012

Joined: 17:06 on 4th Dec 2008
Posts: 279
Location: Walsall West Midlands
Huey Lad Wrote:
asteve Wrote:
Sorry for not following up my original post but I've been travelling for a week or so and haven't had net access.
I was in the pub the night of the incident and the guy in question had been sitting near me. I didn't recognise him and it was only later, when asked if I knew him, that I found out he'd left without paying his bill. There was no argument about the bill, he just buggered off.
Apologies to Kev (on here) for any misunderstanding about a clearly separate incident.
The waiter has kept his job but is having his salary docked.
Steve.


To encounter one dispute over a 2000 rupee bill with an Englishman named Kev in a bar in Calcutta may be regarded as a misfortune, to encounter two in the same evening looks like carelessness.


Indeed Huey all the more remarkable as it was my & the other "Kev's" last night in Calcutta.
I don't know about anyone not paying their bill but i do know that my bill bought with it all the usual commotion & also that i paid it. On reflection the english tenner that i gave the guy was probably meant to be a hundred rupees but i'll put that one down to my good friend old monk.
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