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fernando
Post subject: Umpiring
PostPosted: 20:17 on 16th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
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Just wandering if this Dharmasena bloke is on the Elite Umpires list,that's all. :oops:
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 11:43 on 17th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2151
Location: Preston UK
I'm wondering if you meant wondering not wandering. Or did your mind wander whilst you were wondering about it. ;)

Yes he is, since 2011. International umpire of the year as well, hmmmm.
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fernando
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 15:51 on 17th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
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blueandy1mac Wrote:
I'm wondering if you meant wondering not wandering. Or did your mind wander whilst you were wondering about it. ;)

Yes he is, since 2011. International umpire of the year as well, hmmmm.


Yes Mac,i was wondering about wandering. But christ almighty,this mons made a few clangers. :oops:
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 16:48 on 17th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
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Location: Preston UK
If there was any credibility left in the BCCI, there is'nt but if there were, then this test would be the final straw and they would put their hand up and admit that DRS is at least a step forward and in the right direction.

But they won't. :?
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Huey Lad
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 18:59 on 17th Dec 2012

Joined: 18:02 on 23rd Apr 2008
Posts: 664
fernando Wrote:
blueandy1mac Wrote:
I'm wondering if you meant wondering not wandering. Or did your mind wander whilst you were wondering about it. ;)

Yes he is, since 2011. International umpire of the year as well, hmmmm.


Yes Mac,i was wondering about wandering. But christ almighty,this mons made a few clangers. :oops:


Such an easy job too, sometimes it only takes four or five replays from several angles, slowed to down ultra-motion plus the use of hawkeye, hot-spot and then snicko to establish that the umpire got a decision wrong.
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 21:34 on 17th Dec 2012

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
Posts: 955
Location: Australia
Huey Lad Wrote:

Such an easy job too, sometimes it only takes four or five replays from several angles, slowed to down ultra-motion plus the use of hawkeye, hot-spot and then snicko to establish that the umpire got a decision wrong.


Which is exactly why the umpires should have access to the technology.

I must admit I'm still not 100% sold on the DRS in its current form. And I did say during the 1st test of this series how refreshing it was not having it......seeing a close call, huge appeal, not given out, and 30 secs later the next ball is being bowled.......I liked that.

But as the series went on and as the clangers got worse and more frequent I realised that even though it is not perfect by any means, and we still get wrong decisions given with it in place........it has got to be better than what we saw over these 4 tests.

I'm normally one to stick up for the umpires and would generally agree with your comments Huey about what a tough job it is.......but there were some real howlers during this series, to the level that I don't understand how any top flight umpire could get it so wrong.

Watching Dhoni, Kohli and Sharma crowd around Trott and Dharmasena stamping their feet in child like frustration, was as good an advert for the DRS as you are likely to see......lets hope the boys at the BCCI were watching :lol:
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 18:03 on 18th Dec 2012

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
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Location: Preston UK
Huey Lad Wrote:
fernando Wrote:
blueandy1mac Wrote:
I'm wondering if you meant wondering not wandering. Or did your mind wander whilst you were wondering about it. ;)

Yes he is, since 2011. International umpire of the year as well, hmmmm.


Yes Mac,i was wondering about wandering. But christ almighty,this mons made a few clangers. :oops:


Such an easy job too, sometimes it only takes four or five replays from several angles, slowed to down ultra-motion plus the use of hawkeye, hot-spot and then snicko to establish that the umpire got a decision wrong.


No-one would dispute that HUw, in fact its the reason we're advocating it. No lover of the game wants to disparage umps, on the contrary we want to make their lives easier. This series just made the need for that assistance undeniable.
It has'nt been mooted anywhere I've seen, but is it not possible that International umpires, now normally able and willing to use DRS in tests, are posssibly less confident about making some decisions when they know that back-up is then denied.
If you consider any useful labour saving device which has been introduced into your own field, being then withdrawn, would'nt your own performance suffer. I KNOW for a fact that my performance as a ref is appreciably better when I have official rather than club linesmen, it can only be the same for these guys with technical assistance.
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whiteensign
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 19:07 on 18th Dec 2012

Joined: 22:13 on 23rd Apr 2008
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Location: Redditch/Sydney
Surely the place that needs DRS the most is club cricket, where umpires are usually totally senile, and can only be described as dodgy at best ;)

As Huey says, it's such a difficult job, that's why (in the words of the great 'Half Man Half Biscuit') you never hear a cricket crowd sing "who's the bastard in the hat" ;)
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wickets
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 01:21 on 23rd Dec 2012

Joined: 22:49 on 30th Apr 2008
Posts: 1026
Location: Swindon
whiteensign Wrote:
Surely the place that needs DRS the most is club cricket, where umpires are usually totally senile, and can only be described as dodgy at best


If we had DRS in club cricket I would never again hear my "umpiring" mate have the following conversation after a series of appeals and "Not Out's".

"How's That?"
"Not out."
"Why the fuck is that one not out?"
"I don't know....it just isn't."
"You're a cunt mate."
"Yeah, I know."

DRS would ruin club cricket.
Well it would.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Umpiring
PostPosted: 12:31 on 24th Dec 2012

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wickets Wrote:
whiteensign Wrote:
Surely the place that needs DRS the most is club cricket, where umpires are usually totally senile, and can only be described as dodgy at best


If we had DRS in club cricket I would never again hear my "umpiring" mate have the following conversation after a series of appeals and "Not Out's".

"How's That?"
"Not out."
"Why the fuck is that one not out?"
"I don't know....it just isn't."
"You're a cunt mate."
"Yeah, I know."

That could be one of my Reffing performances, almost word for word, spooky really.

DRS would ruin club cricket.
Well it would.
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