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Lofthouse
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 00:35 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 17:08 on 2nd Sep 2012
Posts: 90
Wozza Wrote:
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OK Wozza but make sure everything you post is TRUE ...otherwise I will nail you to the fucking wall legally.


Hahaha a bit thin-skinned aren't we. You sound like the sort of bloke that gets people banned from sports forums when they shoot you down in flames fella :lol: :lol:



Don't change the subject,go on post something about me that is not true,THEN we will see who is "thin-skinned", I DARE YOU.

Wozza,you are all mouth & arsehole (wind & piss)
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Wozza
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 07:35 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 13:24 on 9th Jan 2014
Posts: 47
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The Empire and its legacy means that most people living in England have at least some family ties with one or more other countries, from the Caribbean to the subcontinent and New Zealand, to Australia. The number of people of British descent living abroad is vast. The media here makes a big thing about immigration, but there is also almost as much (sometimes more) emigration going on. It's a two way process. People move backwards and forwards all the time, too. A family will move abroad, and they or their offspring will often return. For example, Kevin Pietersen's mum's parents moved from England to South Africa when she was very young, and her son moved in the other direction.

Like most of the overseas-born players who have represented England, he is very much a product of English cricket. Although he arrived in England at a later age than most, he did so as a very mediocre off-spinner. It was his time in England that turned him from a not very good specialist bowler into a bordering on great specialist batsman.

In any case, the truth of the matter is that qualification to represent a country in international cricket has never been based on a player's country of birth. It has always tended to be based more on where a player plays his cricket.

To illustrate how pathetic your obsession with birthplace is, here is a brief history lesson:

The first Test match between England and Australia was played in Melbourne in 1877. The Australian team included the following:

C. Bannerman (born in England)
T.P. Horan (born in Ireland)
B.B. Cooper (born in the part of India that is now Bangladesh)
W.E. Midwinter (born in England)
T.K. Kendall (born in England)
J.R. Hodges (born in England)

So in the very first Test match a benchmark was set, and that benchmark doesn't seem to have had anything whatsoever to do with birthplace, does it?

You are from a country whose own prime minister was born overseas, and whose head of state (who your people voted to keep) is not only foreign but doesn't even live there! I therefore find it hard to understand why you and so many of your fellow countrymen have a problem with England picking the overseas-born players they have in most cases developed from a young age, or in a handful of cases they have attracted to their shores by means of the best domestic first class cricket competition in the world.

Maybe it appeals to the same Australian sense of victimhood that England's great (overseas-born) captain Douglas Jardine identified and exploited so successfully.


Game, set and match!! The referee has stopped the fight :D

Beautifully put, a fantastic post that is rather wasted on the likes of Lofthouse
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fernando
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 08:53 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
Posts: 1873
Come on Wozza,we're still waiting pal. ;)
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 09:55 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
Posts: 955
Location: Australia
Cuthbert Rizla Wrote:

Agreed.
Even I am struggling to excuse his " banter " as being anything more than the utterings of a gormless juvenile.
I think it's simply the inferiority complex gnawing away at his innards.
But let's not tar all the Convicts with the same bursh - some of the fellows I met last time I toured Down Under were decent coves who were mortified at the antics of these ocker oiks.



Rizla, I live in Australia, have done for 20 odd years, my wife is Australian and my kids are being raised as Australians (god help em!!)

I have never tared all Australians with the same brush but the point you seem to be missing is that we've seen all this before, over many years. In 99% of cases this forum just attracts the lowest common denominator from down under. Occasionally we get posters like Bobby Tony and Mitchell Johnson who actually like what we do at the cricket, they come here because they have experienced what we bring to the game and have a genuine interest in knowing us.

For every 1 of them we've had we've had literally dozens that come here for the exact opposite reasons. They come here because they hate us, they hate us because they do not understand what we do and are to be frank are threatened by it. Like any narrow minded, bigoted people they hate what they don't comprehend.

Anyone that has watched cricket in Australia has seen both these type of people en mass. There are those that want to get in amongst the Barmy Army and enjoy it and those that sit in the next bay hurling abuse at us all day.

Your previous comment about "banter" and bringing "life to the old forum" was incredibly naive mate. The likes of Lofthouse and As an Aussie and all those that have come and gone before them will never bring any sort of positive input to this place however liberal your take on that is.......and you are kidding yourself if you think they will.

I'm no admin here and have no control over policy on trouble makers, but if ever I'm asked or it comes up in discussion I'll offer my opinion which is and always has been that we should have a zero tolerance policy on totally rank posting. 3 strikes and you're out.

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Forgot to mention......quality post once again by Big H, as others mentioned sense and reason like that will go way over Lofthouses head but terrific input all the same.
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Wozza
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 10:00 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 13:24 on 9th Jan 2014
Posts: 47
There's a curious (and very sad) individual that posts on The Fanatics forum

https://www.thefanatics.com/forumsvb/forum

His name is 'H3rmit' and he's one of the most bizarre posters i've even seen on a sports forum

His posting style/comments/anti-English sentiment is almost identical to the cr@p that Lofthouse posts on here. You make your mind up as to whether or not they are the same person, it's pretty obvious that they are :lol:

I remember this H3rmit character often boasting about the way he used to 'own' the BarmyArmy forum, he would talk himself up and then disappear once the English started winning

A very bizarre character indeed

Have a look at the forum, you don't need to register to see his posts...some of them are hilarious
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 10:05 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
Posts: 955
Location: Australia
Haven't clicked on the link as tbh I just have no interest in looking in there, but this lofthouse appears to be the same muppet we used to have here going by the name of Giraffe.

Anyway Wozza.......wanna go halves in the lawyer fees when he takes us to the cleaners :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Actually we used to have a hermit here too.......probably are all the same.
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 11:40 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 09:14 on 23rd Apr 2008
Posts: 2364
addtamx Wrote:
Haven't clicked on the link as tbh I just have no interest in looking in there, but this lofthouse appears to be the same muppet we used to have here going by the name of Giraffe.

Anyway Wozza.......wanna go halves in the lawyer fees when he takes us to the cleaners :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Actually we used to have a hermit here too.......probably are all the same.


The H3rmit name we had on here was briefly borrowed (satirically I think) from the Fanatics Forum by a BA forum regular in frustration at some particularly nasty trolling we had on here for a while. The H3rmit on the Fanatics Forum has been around for years. It used to be said that he and Giraffe were one and the same, but I'm not totally certain about that.

Giraffe and Lofthouse appear to be from different states. I suppose it's possible that they could be a single person who has moved cities, but in my experience people that stupid tend not to have the initiative to do something as radical and adventurous as that.

Ever since the early days we've had Australians coming on here with a similar posting style and the same hilarious tendency to humiliate themselves. There used to be quite a few of them in fact. There is no reason to think it's all the same person. The mentality they represent is ubiquitous (although far from universal obviously) in every major cricket and indeed sports ground in Australia.
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Cuthbert Rizla
Post subject: Re: Strauss Quits
PostPosted: 18:52 on 14th Jan 2014

Joined: 20:14 on 21st Mar 2012
Posts: 233
addtamx Wrote:
Cuthbert Rizla Wrote:

Agreed.
Even I am struggling to excuse his " banter " as being anything more than the utterings of a gormless juvenile.
I think it's simply the inferiority complex gnawing away at his innards.
But let's not tar all the Convicts with the same bursh - some of the fellows I met last time I toured Down Under were decent coves who were mortified at the antics of these ocker oiks.



Rizla, I live in Australia, have done for 20 odd years, my wife is Australian and my kids are being raised as Australians (god help em!!)

I have never tared all Australians with the same brush but the point you seem to be missing is that we've seen all this before, over many years. In 99% of cases this forum just attracts the lowest common denominator from down under. Occasionally we get posters like Bobby Tony and Mitchell Johnson who actually like what we do at the cricket, they come here because they have experienced what we bring to the game and have a genuine interest in knowing us.

For every 1 of them we've had we've had literally dozens that come here for the exact opposite reasons. They come here because they hate us, they hate us because they do not understand what we do and are to be frank are threatened by it. Like any narrow minded, bigoted people they hate what they don't comprehend.

Anyone that has watched cricket in Australia has seen both these type of people en mass. There are those that want to get in amongst the Barmy Army and enjoy it and those that sit in the next bay hurling abuse at us all day.

Your previous comment about "banter" and bringing "life to the old forum" was incredibly naive mate. The likes of Lofthouse and As an Aussie and all those that have come and gone before them will never bring any sort of positive input to this place however liberal your take on that is.......and you are kidding yourself if you think they will.

I'm no admin here and have no control over policy on trouble makers, but if ever I'm asked or it comes up in discussion I'll offer my opinion which is and always has been that we should have a zero tolerance policy on totally rank posting. 3 strikes and you're out.

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Forgot to mention......quality post once again by Big H, as others mentioned sense and reason like that will go way over Lofthouses head but terrific input all the same.



I don't disagree with much of what you have written.
In groups the Aussies can be a bovine,unattractive sort whose knuckle-draqgging tendencies get worse as their inability to cope with weakened beer increases.
Not unlike crowds you see at just about any Premier League match in the UK.
But I'm willing to give any of them a fair crack on this forum until, as you say, they become predictably tiresome and dull.
Never fear,however, because they have short attention spans and will quickly tire themselves out and move on.
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