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Jonny Trabant
Post subject: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 09:48 on 30th Dec 2012

Joined: 08:20 on 27th Dec 2012
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Just watched the Sky Sports TV piece on Tony Greig, controversial to say the least. As a young whipper snapper growing up, I sort of only knew vaguely about him coming from SA, didn't really know why he was coming and that he destroyed along with Packer English cricket. The 'grovel' thing came later for me. But one thing that's certainly overlooked is his stats 3600 runs, 20 50's & 8 tons all in 58 tests. Contributing 141 wits came in handy as well and this is all pre Hadlee, Beefy and the rest of that mob.

Later on I came to loathe his commentating I thought he talked a load of tosh but that was just my opinion of the man.

Interesting to hear any other thoughts
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PeterT
Post subject: Re: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 14:04 on 30th Dec 2012

Joined: 18:20 on 17th Oct 2008
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I always liked him.

Living in Hove in the 70s, I actually got to meet him many times and found him iconic. Certainly he was controversial.

A sad loss, and no age to lose your life.

RIP.
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 06:48 on 31st Dec 2012

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
Posts: 950
Location: Australia
Jonny Trabant Wrote:
didn't really know why he was coming and that he destroyed along with Packer English cricket. The 'grovel' thing came later for me.


Interested to know why you'd say his involvement in World Series Cricket with Packer "destroyed English cricket"??

This was all before my time but this series recently aired over here......

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howzat!_Kerry_Packer's_War

Obviously it has an Aussie/Channel 9 bias so I'm certainly not taking anything in it as gospel (had Clive LLoyd batting right handed FFS!!) but it is pretty much the sum total of my knowledge on this period.

Why was WSC so harmful to English cricket??

And the "grovel" incident was discussed on here quite recently, I was pretty appalled by it but most felt it was just a poorly timed, not well thought out comment.

Either way RIP Greigy.....whatever anyone's opinion of him, he was a great servant to the game.
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Jonny Trabant
Post subject: Re: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 08:22 on 1st Jan 2013

Joined: 08:20 on 27th Dec 2012
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addtamx Wrote:
Jonny Trabant Wrote:
didn't really know why he was coming and that he destroyed along with Packer English cricket. The 'grovel' thing came later for me.


Interested to know why you'd say his involvement in World Series Cricket with Packer "destroyed English cricket"??

This was all before my time but this series recently aired over here......

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howzat!_Kerry_Packer's_War

Obviously it has an Aussie/Channel 9 bias so I'm certainly not taking anything in it as gospel (had Clive LLoyd batting right handed FFS!!) but it is pretty much the sum total of my knowledge on this period.

Why was WSC so harmful to English cricket??

And the "grovel" incident was discussed on here quite recently, I was pretty appalled by it but most felt it was just a poorly timed, not well thought out comment.

Either way RIP Greigy.....whatever anyone's opinion of him, he was a great servant to the game.



Although my comments were posted early morning, I'd written it the previous evening whilst supping a nice Malbec, so to say Greiggy 'destroyed English cricket' on reflection was unfair.
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peado
Post subject: Re: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 09:23 on 1st Jan 2013

Joined: 09:29 on 23rd Apr 2008
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I met Tony Grieg, in Cheers bar in Colombo in March last year. I must admit that I had mixed views about him. We chatted away for what must have been around 20-30 minutes, and I have to say a nicer guy you couldn't wish to meet. What he did with Kerry Packer and WSC, on reflection, has been on the whole good for world cricket, and has turned it into the fabulous sport and spectacle it is to-day.
Sad that at only 66 he should be taken away from us. May he rest in peace, and in the knowledge that his achievements will long be remembered as positive and good for world cricket.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 17:54 on 2nd Jan 2013

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
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Location: Preston UK
peado Wrote:
I met Tony Grieg, in Cheers bar in Colombo in March last year. I must admit that I had mixed views about him. We chatted away for what must have been around 20-30 minutes, and I have to say a nicer guy you couldn't wish to meet. What he did with Kerry Packer and WSC, on reflection, has been on the whole good for world cricket, and has turned it into the fabulous sport and spectacle it is to-day.
Sad that at only 66 he should be taken away from us. May he rest in peace, and in the knowledge that his achievements will long be remembered as positive and good for world cricket.


Thanks for that Peado, sums up my thoughts about him although I demonised him after the Packer affair.
Strange how we now see it differently because of the posivive alterations that came about. Never read an auto/biography of him so might be interesting to read his slant on it now. Could he even vaguely have guessed what the eventual outcome would be ?
RIP to a very good cricketer.
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MelonHead
Post subject: Re: Tony Greig
PostPosted: 07:42 on 3rd Jan 2013

Joined: 07:43 on 16th Feb 2011
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peado Wrote:
I met Tony Grieg, in Cheers bar in Colombo in March last year. I must admit that I had mixed views about him. We chatted away for what must have been around 20-30 minutes, and I have to say a nicer guy you couldn't wish to meet. What he did with Kerry Packer and WSC, on reflection, has been on the whole good for world cricket, and has turned it into the fabulous sport and spectacle it is to-day.
Sad that at only 66 he should be taken away from us. May he rest in peace, and in the knowledge that his achievements will long be remembered as positive and good for world cricket.



This is correct.
Modern cricketers should have been queuing up to thank Greig, though they are too ignorant to realise. Pre-Packer the game was run as a cosy club for the benefit of administrators, Oxbridge/ guards/ GnT types, horrors like Doug Insole. Players were treated as servants. Even the very top players didn't make a living wage out of filling Test grounds. Packer changed it all, creating more money by savvy marketing and competitive sale of broadcasting rights and making sure the players at last got a fair slice of it . And Greig was a big part in making that necessary landslide happen
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