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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Attitude
PostPosted: 23:57 on 27th Mar 2013

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2172
Location: Preston UK
Before I get home and really review the series in some depth, I would ask you to consider how we can expect to win test matches when one of our pace attack is legless in a bar after the 4th day of the Wellington test, accompanied by another player and one non player, in the early hours of the 5th day.
Nuff said.
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 07:26 on 28th Mar 2013

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
Posts: 962
Location: Australia
Name and shame Andy.....
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Cuthbert Rizla
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 09:03 on 1st Apr 2013

Joined: 20:14 on 21st Mar 2012
Posts: 240
Bad form old cock.
What goes on tour should stay on tour.It's bad enough that they have to deal with Fleet Street keeping an eye on them without someone on BA shopping them too.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 16:53 on 2nd Apr 2013

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
Posts: 2172
Location: Preston UK
Cuthbert Rizla Wrote:
Bad form old cock.
What goes on tour should stay on tour.It's bad enough that they have to deal with Fleet Street keeping an eye on them without someone on BA shopping them too.


That proposterous crap about 'What goes on tour' was created for the sole use of people who wanted to behave improperly and with impunity, usually from an unsuspecting spouse.
Those of us who have recently 'gone on tour', paid several thousand pounds for the privelige of watching a substandard cricketing performance and have wondered why, have some right to know if there are mitigating circumstances. Particularly if they are circumstances which would bring disciplinary action should the management be aware of them.

The fans/public have a right to know if our players whom they are PAYING to watch are rendering themselves unfit for matches - deliberately. You may rather choose to be kept in the dark, I wish to know and believe the majority agree with me when it regards behaviour whilst matches are in progress.

I will not name the two 'active' or any players, I wasn't there. However I do not doubt the validity due to the honesty and character of the three young men who were there in the conversation with the men involved.

Goes on tour my ass, when I've misbehaved I've been named and shamed - quite rightfully.
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Jonny Trabant
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 18:58 on 2nd Apr 2013

Joined: 08:20 on 27th Dec 2012
Posts: 17
So why, dangle the carrot then? Either name them and you certainly seem to want to 'shame' them or, well shut the hell up.
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fernando
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 19:29 on 2nd Apr 2013

Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008
Posts: 1881
Jonny Trabant Wrote:
So why, dangle the carrot then? Either name them and you certainly seem to want to 'shame' them or, well shut the hell up.


You might be biting off more than you can chew there pal.
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Cuthbert Rizla
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 21:12 on 2nd Apr 2013

Joined: 20:14 on 21st Mar 2012
Posts: 240
blueandy1mac Wrote:
Cuthbert Rizla Wrote:
Bad form old cock.
What goes on tour should stay on tour.It's bad enough that they have to deal with Fleet Street keeping an eye on them without someone on BA shopping them too.


That proposterous crap about 'What goes on tour' was created for the sole use of people who wanted to behave improperly and with impunity, usually from an unsuspecting spouse.
Those of us who have recently 'gone on tour', paid several thousand pounds for the privelige of watching a substandard cricketing performance and have wondered why, have some right to know if there are mitigating circumstances. Particularly if they are circumstances which would bring disciplinary action should the management be aware of them.

The fans/public have a right to know if our players whom they are PAYING to watch are rendering themselves unfit for matches - deliberately. You may rather choose to be kept in the dark, I wish to know and believe the majority agree with me when it regards behaviour whilst matches are in progress.

I will not name the two 'active' or any players, I wasn't there. However I do not doubt the validity due to the honesty and character of the three young men who were there in the conversation with the men involved.

Goes on tour my ass, when I've misbehaved I've been named and shamed - quite rightfully.




So you're willing to damage the reputations of ALL the pace bowlers on the NZ tour by making an accusation based on hearsay rather than what you actually witnessed.
Yet you're not willing to name names because you weren't there.
You couldn't make up this nonsense if you tried.
There's nothing more contemptible than a playground sneak masquerading as a righteous do-gooder.
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addtamx
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 21:29 on 2nd Apr 2013

Joined: 21:02 on 9th May 2008
Posts: 962
Location: Australia
Cuthbert Rizla Wrote:
There's nothing more contemptible than a playground sneak masquerading as a righteous do-gooder.


Yeah there is. A player that is given the highest privilege his profession can offer (and paid a small fortune to boot) and cares that little about it that he can be found during the middle of a test match in a bar in the early hours unable to scratch himself.

Entirely up to Andy if he feels like naming said player or not, 100% his call........but the player in question will get no sympathy from me.
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GMH2
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 12:59 on 3rd Apr 2013

Joined: 10:48 on 22nd Aug 2011
Posts: 108
Cricketer gets a bit p1ssed in a bar........big wow. I actually used to like the days when sportsmen had a bit of character and a few faults rather than the robots we get nowadays. Did'nt Beefy once get leathered in Melbourne, slept in changing room on physios couch and then go out next morning and score 80 ?
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Cuthbert Rizla
Post subject: Re: Attitude
PostPosted: 13:30 on 3rd Apr 2013

Joined: 20:14 on 21st Mar 2012
Posts: 240
GMH2 Wrote:
Cricketer gets a bit p1ssed in a bar........big wow. I actually used to like the days when sportsmen had a bit of character and a few faults rather than the robots we get nowadays. Did'nt Beefy once get leathered in Melbourne, slept in changing room on physios couch and then go out next morning and score 80 ?



FWIW, I simply don't buy this story given the way Andy Flower and his backroom staff run England.
They would be fully aware if a player was that pissed that it affected his game the next day and he would be punished accordingly.
And even if he was out having a few jars we don't the facts behind it, just second-hand
tittle-tattle from someone who " heard it from a mate. "
Perhaps he'd had some bad news,maybe a friend had died or he'd had a furious row with the missus over the 'phone.
Whatever the reason surely England players should be allow to relax in peace knowing there's not some busybody snopping on their every move simply because they're lucky and talented enough to earn a few bob.
Envy is a terrible thing.
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