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bishbash
Post subject: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 13:35 on 18th Jun 2013

Joined: 12:03 on 4th Jul 2011
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Just interested to know, particularly the subcontinent. Read the 1993 tour of india was chaos for the players and journos, goodness knows what it must have been like for fans. I imagine India and Pak back in the eighties didnt get many english fans watching. I magine some on here did the ashes in 90-91 what about 86-7 or even back into the seventies? Windies always been a popular one anyone do that back in the day, eighties or earlier.
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Richard
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 21:43 on 18th Jun 2013

Joined: 22:35 on 18th Nov 2008
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bishbash Wrote:
Just interested to know, particularly the subcontinent. Read the 1993 tour of india was chaos for the players and journos, goodness knows what it must have been like for fans. I imagine India and Pak back in the eighties didnt get many english fans watching. I magine some on here did the ashes in 90-91 what about 86-7 or even back into the seventies? Windies always been a popular one anyone do that back in the day, eighties or earlier.


My first tour was 2002. I did meet a bloke in Melbourne last time around who said he'd done every Ashes tour since 1974-75!
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 05:55 on 20th Jun 2013

Joined: 09:14 on 23rd Apr 2008
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I can't claim to go back that far. India in 2001/2 was my first tour. Touring has changed a lot though, even in that short time.

There aren't many tours nowadays where you can easily travel with no advance reservations, which was the norm for me, and probably most barmies back then. It was all much more happy-go-lucky and spontaneous than it tends to be today. That's partly down to an increase in the numbers travelling, and partly due to the ease of booking stuff ahead on the internet.

What's more, it wasn't really until 2006/7 when sell-out crowds at Ashes Test matches became common. Most grounds had unreserved general admission areas too, so little or no pre-planning was necessary in order to end up together. Because there was no organised Barmy Army tour group, it was just a question of getting tickets for the cheapest or (occasionally) best value part of the ground and taking it from there.
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bishbash
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 15:01 on 25th Jun 2013

Joined: 12:03 on 4th Jul 2011
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Cheers for the responses. Is it fair to gauge from this that no one on here has been to the subcontinent pre, say, 2000-01? I imagine that would've been interesting. How about Zimbabwe, did anyone ever go there? Surely that was relatively safe in 1996. No one been on tour anywhere pre 1990s?
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hooperman
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 14:12 on 25th Jun 2013

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/c ... 64704.html

This was my first game, big riot with locals and the police if I remember. Dry ground too.
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bishbash
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 15:50 on 25th Jun 2013

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Nice one hooper. Yes I imagined quite a few went for the victorious pak and sl tours of 00/01. Previous sub continent tour was 93 iirc, would love to hear stories of anyone who braved that, seems like a different era/generation. I suppose it was.
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 21:14 on 25th Jun 2013

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bishbash Wrote:
Nice one hooper. Yes I imagined quite a few went for the victorious pak and sl tours of 00/01. Previous sub continent tour was 93 iirc, would love to hear stories of anyone who braved that, seems like a different era/generation. I suppose it was.



From the stories I heard there were lots present on the 2000/01 tour of SL. Of the subsequent SL tours, the number attending in 2000/01 was only surpassed by the unexpectedly massive turnout on our last tour there in 2012.

By contrast there were very few present in Pakistan that winter by all accounts. The turnout on the 2005 tour was bigger, but even then it was only a few hundred, and most only went to the final Test in Lahore. In Multan and Faisalabad the number of England fans present was probably below 3 figures. Those of us who did go had a fantastic and memorable time.

India has changed very noticeably since my first visit, that being mainly due to the high levels of economic growth since then. IPL cash and World Cup related development has led to a great deal of modernisation, with many of the big old grounds being redeveloped, and new out-of-town grounds being built. Roads are better, 2 stroke and even diesel engines are now banned from most city centres, it tends to be a bit cleaner, and most of the English speaking touts who used to mob you as soon as you got off the bus or train now find it more lucrative to work in call centres and the like. Between the 1993 tour and our 2001 visit the economic growth was nothing like as rapid, so I doubt there would have been that much difference between the conditions encountered in 1993 and 2001. The main practical difference would have course have been that there was no Barmy Army in 1993!

That said of course, the 2001 tour of India came very close to being called off due to misplaced security fears in the wake of 9/11. That had an adverse effect on the numbers travelling, and there weren't many of us at all.
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GMH2
Post subject: Re: Longest time ago anyone went on tour?
PostPosted: 13:16 on 26th Jun 2013

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My first was Ashes 86/87, I did Sydney Test and One dayers in Brisbane v Aus and WI. The 1 dayers were the hottest conditions I have ever watched cricket in, Bill Athey and Gladstone both passed out on the pitch in WI game.
The Sydney test was a cracker, Broad 100, (Think) Emburey and Dilley got 5 fers and Gower played one of the best knocks I have seen. We lost though with Peter Who taking 7 wickets.
There was quite a bit of English support but the 'rowdier' element were mainly ex pats and all aligned themselves with football teams on The Hill....Arsenal, Millwall, Sheff Wed.... and on days one and two it was a war zone on The Hill as they fought each other and local Aussies.
There was quite a bit of following from the Tour operators, loads with John Snow etc.

Here's the best bit - The whole trip for 2 weeks , thats flights, match tickets, internal flights and staying in the Sebel Townhouse with the team, was £800 with Wisden Cricket Monthly ! I was an 18 year old market trader (selling purses !) and thought it was a fortune.
I've still got a photo of me and my mate with Fat Gatt in The Bourbon and Beefsteak in Kings Cross ...........I've now got a lot less hair ! Happy Days though.
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