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peado
Post subject: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 12:26 on 5th Sep 2013

Joined: 09:29 on 23rd Apr 2008
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I note that the BCCI want to change the itinerary for the upcoming SA tour. This is after the itinerary was published on Cricinfo and the SA website 2 months ago. They not only want to change it, they want to shorten it as well. Apparently they want to sqeeze in a WI tour in November in India. This is so Sachin Tendulka can play his 200th test match in India. Also the BCCI are also upset with Haroon Lorgat the SA CEO, because when he was ICC president he tried to impose DRS across all test nations. A shortened tour will cost CSA an estimated $23M. Remember SA are the number 1 test playing nation in the world, but are being treated with total contempt.
CSA are unable to sue BCCI because they never signed up to the Future Tours Programme, and say they are not legally obliged to play in any of the FTP tours.
The ICC can apparently do nothing. At times the BCCI take your breath away. Don't book your travel, hotels, tickets for next years tour to England just yet.
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Minhosa
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 13:56 on 16th Sep 2013

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Here is an interesting article around the BCCI "management"; the extracts from the ICC meeting are particularly telling; they seem a law unto themselves and unfortunately the ICC and other boards can do little to oppose them. :roll:

www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/671885.html
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 15:51 on 17th Sep 2013

Joined: 12:30 on 14th Jul 2008
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Location: Preston UK
Minhosa Wrote:
Here is an interesting article around the BCCI "management"; the extracts from the ICC meeting are particularly telling; they seem a law unto themselves and unfortunately the ICC and other boards can do little to oppose them. :roll:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 71885.html


Oh yes they can. But it will take unanimity and backbone, both conspicuous by their absence in cricket boards.
If both countries cancel, playing each other perhaps, then look for a BCCI reappraisal.
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peado
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 05:28 on 19th Sep 2013

Joined: 09:29 on 23rd Apr 2008
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blueandy1mac Wrote:
Oh yes they can. But it will take unanimity and backbone, both conspicuous by their absence in cricket boards.
If both countries cancel, playing each other perhaps, then look for a BCCI reappraisal.

Not sure I understand your last sentence. Which two countries are you suggesting cancel playing each other. SA and India
If Eng, Aus and SA cancelled all future series with India, then I think the bullying methods of BCCI might make them have a reappraisal of their attitude to others.
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peado
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 05:46 on 19th Sep 2013

Joined: 09:29 on 23rd Apr 2008
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If I was the ECB around April time next year, I'd tell the BCCI that they had decided to include a four test series with South Africa and they had reduced India to two tests and a couple of T20's in May.
Won't happen. But great fun watching the sparks fly. The SA tour isn't in the FTP, but who cares about that ; says the ECB to the BCCI.
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MelonHead
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 07:19 on 19th Sep 2013

Joined: 07:43 on 16th Feb 2011
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Cheeky Indians, throwing their weight around.

Of course, it was different when white people ran the game and held the purse strings. In no way did Australia and England look after each first, with South Africa next, while condescending to fit in the Indians and Pakistanis when it suited them. No, no, we played fair, of course. O yes.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 14:25 on 19th Sep 2013

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peado Wrote:
blueandy1mac Wrote:
Oh yes they can. But it will take unanimity and backbone, both conspicuous by their absence in cricket boards.
If both countries cancel, playing each other perhaps, then look for a BCCI reappraisal.

Not sure I understand your last sentence. Which two countries are you suggesting cancel playing each other. SA and India
If Eng, Aus and SA cancelled all future series with India, then I think the bullying methods of BCCI might make them have a reappraisal of their attitude to others.


SA and WI cancel, then paly each other 2 home 2 away.
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blueandy1mac
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 14:44 on 19th Sep 2013

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MelonHead Wrote:
Cheeky Indians, throwing their weight around.

Of course, it was different when white people ran the game and held the purse strings. In no way did Australia and England look after each first, with South Africa next, while condescending to fit in the Indians and Pakistanis when it suited them. No, no, we played fair, of course. O yes.


So, let me get this straight. Now that black (is that correct/acceptable? I don't know) people hold the 'purse strings' it is right and fair that they do whatever suits them regardless of the effect it has on other nations.

Why bother to have FTP which enables most countries to arrange suitable and financially rewarding tours?

Why bother playing tours against teams who have little or no chance?

Why bother financially supporting other countries by playing them either home or better still away?

Why bother if your financially strong tournament impinges on and undermines anothers lifeblood income?

Why bother?

Because the rest of the world will benefit from this order, not JUST one nation. Who incidentally would not and have not given one flying f..k about the implications for their coloured bretheren, and would in fact do anything in their power to destabilise Pakistan cricket even further if it could.

The 'white' nations played each other because they were the only ones capable of giving each other a game, until WI came along. They were the only test playing nation who could have a gripe about the time it took for them to be invited to the top table. All the others were brought on, and then in when it was felt they could cope. Some even then too soon.
Sorry that doesn't fit in with your secondary school history lesson but its a fact. Would India do anything along the lines of anti-apartheid if it hurt them financially? You bet their arse they wouldn't.
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MelonHead
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 16:00 on 19th Sep 2013

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You are Giles Clarke, do I win a prize?

Can't be more than one prat as condescending as that in the world, surely?
It's that sort of "we colonised your land and now you're not even grateful" attitude that ensures the BCCI takes great joy in shafting England
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Big Harvey
Post subject: Re: BCCI at it again
PostPosted: 15:32 on 19th Sep 2013

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MelonHead Wrote:
It's that sort of "we colonised your land and now you're not even grateful" attitude that ensures the BCCI takes great joy in shafting England


I noticed no such sentiment in blueandy1mac's post.

For most of its history international cricket was dominated by the politics of empire. We all know that. Are you suggesting though that because India as a country spent so many years under the yoke, the BCCI should be allowed to get away with doing whatever the hell it likes with no regard for anyone else? I don't think cricket fans from most other countries (including those which also suffered in the days of empire) would agree with that.
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