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Maidenover
Post subject: Re: How wished they were out there
PostPosted: 09:34 on 16th Dec 2008

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Incidently, in the context of how to bowl to each batsman, think the India coaches will be looking at where Strauss scored his runs, and will change the way they bowl to him and the fields they set, accordingly. Will be interesting to see how he gets on in the 2nd test.
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the_fat_controller
Post subject: Re: How wished they were out there
PostPosted: 13:52 on 16th Dec 2008

Joined: 20:44 on 8th May 2008
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There are bigger issues at stake than Monty, although Monty is an issue that needs to be addressed. Yes, I take the point that he has had very little in the way of time out in the middle, but that applies to just about the entire team. I do agree that the decision not to send Monty to Sri Lanka was a mistake, but it is not only this match that Monty has not performed - he has really done very little over the last 12 months. His lack of performance is magnified by the fact that both his batting and fielding are pretty rank and you can only get away with that if you are consistently performing at a very high level in your own discipline. The bottom line is that test sides, these days, simply cannot afford passengers. As much as I like Monty and as much as I do believe that he has the raw talent, he is simply not delivering. Incidentally, why exactly is Adil Rashid not being considered for selection?
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Airliebird9
Post subject: Re: How wished they were out there
PostPosted: 19:25 on 16th Dec 2008

Joined: 02:04 on 24th Apr 2008
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Location: East Yorkshire
the_fat_controller Wrote:
There are bigger issues at stake than Monty, although Monty is an issue that needs to be addressed. Yes, I take the point that he has had very little in the way of time out in the middle, but that applies to just about the entire team. I do agree that the decision not to send Monty to Sri Lanka was a mistake, but it is not only this match that Monty has not performed - he has really done very little over the last 12 months. His lack of performance is magnified by the fact that both his batting and fielding are pretty rank and you can only get away with that if you are consistently performing at a very high level in your own discipline. The bottom line is that test sides, these days, simply cannot afford passengers. As much as I like Monty and as much as I do believe that he has the raw talent, he is simply not delivering. Incidentally, why exactly is Adil Rashid not being considered for selection?



Nail on the head :)
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marauding bison
Post subject: Re: How wished they were out there
PostPosted: 09:44 on 17th Dec 2008

Joined: 22:51 on 14th Jul 2008
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the_fat_controller Wrote:
There are bigger issues at stake than Monty, although Monty is an issue that needs to be addressed. Yes, I take the point that he has had very little in the way of time out in the middle, but that applies to just about the entire team. I do agree that the decision not to send Monty to Sri Lanka was a mistake, but it is not only this match that Monty has not performed - he has really done very little over the last 12 months. His lack of performance is magnified by the fact that both his batting and fielding are pretty rank and you can only get away with that if you are consistently performing at a very high level in your own discipline. The bottom line is that test sides, these days, simply cannot afford passengers. As much as I like Monty and as much as I do believe that he has the raw talent, he is simply not delivering. Incidentally, why exactly is Adil Rashid not being considered for selection?


Sure he was disappointing in Chennai and there are issues but it is not true to say that he has done nothing in the last 12 months. He bowled us to victory in the fourth innings at Napier and the Old Trafford test looked as good as lost until Monty turned it on its head.
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the_fat_controller
Post subject: Re: How wished they were out there
PostPosted: 12:52 on 17th Dec 2008

Joined: 20:44 on 8th May 2008
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OK, I take the point about Napier, but that is really his only notable performance of the year. He did very little in the home series. He needs to get some proper time in the middle and some proper specialist attention. Sri Lanka would have been a very good way of doing this, but unfortunately, the ECB did not have the vision to lay out the few grand it would have cost. The only real way to sort him out is to get him the specialist attention he needs and give him a decent spell back on the county circuit. The talent is there and it will come back through, provided he is managed properly. He also needs to work hard on his fielding. Top flight teams just can't afford rabbits in the field. In the meantime, give Rashid a shot - he looks like a good prospect and creating some competition for the places can only be a good thing.
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yorkssicknote
Post subject: Re: How wished they were out there
PostPosted: 04:51 on 18th Dec 2008

Joined: 07:25 on 25th Nov 2008
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Adil Rashid took 65 championship wickets last year which takes some doing on our tracks in Yorkshire he is a wonderful talent who needs imo to be introduced gently into Test Cricket. He can also field and bat Monty cant. I feel the decision to bring him out is justified spending time around the players -netting practicing and training with them makes the step up a less daunting one when the call does come-which it will whether its in mohali we ll see tomo.

Two points the fact that the debate about Adil Rashid is on going both on the tour and in the press is simple Monty is not good enough.When he isnt taking wickets (which happens too frequently) the absolute necessity is to tie one end up.He is unable to do that.Whether monty plays tomo who knows but his days are numbered.

Secondly Fleddie bowled more overs than the big man and jimmy put together.How long can we keep flogging him -not fair.Our captain Kevin rupee who praises everything and everyone in India in a bid to chase an IPL contract even bowled fleddie at death when the game was gone!

One final thought Amongst the disappointment What a TEST Match just what India needs! Prob second best test ever ive ever seen.
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