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| fernando | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
 Posted: 18:50 on 24th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 12:48 on 25th Apr 2008 Posts: 1685 |
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| Agincourt | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 22:16 on 24th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 02:37 on 25th Jul 2008 Posts: 112 |
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| dazntfc | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 13:23 on 25th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 10:08 on 10th May 2008 Posts: 2169 |
Why does everyone have a love in for Oasis Shah he hardly sets Division Two of the County Championship alight yet he gets talked about as if he is "The Saviour of English Cricket". Water carrier should be his limit. |
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| Crouchy | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 01:37 on 28th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 12:13 on 27th Apr 2008 Posts: 2402 Location: London |
dazntfc Wrote: Why does everyone have a love in for Oasis Shah he hardly sets Division Two of the County Championship alight yet he gets talked about as if he is "The Saviour of English Cricket". Water carrier should be his limit. I believe the pro-Shah consensus is that the man's been carrying water for so long, he deserves a crack in the Test team. |
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| dazntfc | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 09:24 on 28th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 10:08 on 10th May 2008 Posts: 2169 |
Crouchy Wrote: dazntfc Wrote: Why does everyone have a love in for Oasis Shah he hardly sets Division Two of the County Championship alight yet he gets talked about as if he is "The Saviour of English Cricket". Water carrier should be his limit. I believe the pro-Shah consensus is that the man's been carrying water for so long, he deserves a crack in the Test team. Even though there were plenty of other batsman that had better averages than him last summer. |
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| Maidenover | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 10:29 on 28th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 09:13 on 23rd Apr 2008 Posts: 2803 |
Shah seems to be in the Ramprakash, Hick, Maynard, Sales, etc, mould. Good at County level but not test class. I think like Hick, for instance, he'll get "worked out" at that level and do little when it matters. We need to find players of quality (struggling to identify them) and Shah doesn't have it for me. Hope I'm proved wrong if he gets his chance. Not sure KP or others have confidence in him, you wouldn't field regularly at 3rd man if you felt he was part of the team (unless about to bowl the next over). |
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| dazntfc | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 11:06 on 28th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 10:08 on 10th May 2008 Posts: 2169 |
Maidenover Wrote: Shah seems to be in the Ramprakash, Hick, Maynard, Sales, etc, mould. Good at County level but not test class. I think like Hick, for instance, he'll get "worked out" at that level and do little when it matters. We need to find players of quality (struggling to identify them) and Shah doesn't have it for me. Hope I'm proved wrong if he gets his chance. Not sure KP or others have confidence in him, you wouldn't field regularly at 3rd man if you felt he was part of the team (unless about to bowl the next over). It's a bit harsh to mention Sales considering for some unknown reason he has never played Test Cricket. |
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| Maidenover | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 12:52 on 28th Dec 2008 |
Joined: 09:13 on 23rd Apr 2008 Posts: 2803 |
Sales is one of those apparently immensely talented (cf Maynard) who get talked about but never get the many chances the likes of Hick, Ramps, Shah, seem to get. The paranoid amongst us think it's to do with being in the wrong county, hope this isn't the case, but ... Sales has scored double hundreds, and often quickly, but still doesn't get the recognition. Always felt Maynard upset people (Atherton on the 1993 tour) so had a handful of ODIs only. Could have named many similar others ... Rashid can score 100s as well as take 60 wickets in a season, must be something there to work with |
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| STUMPY | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 09:46 on 20th Jan 2009 |
Joined: 05:51 on 21st Dec 2008 Posts: 73 |
Maidenover Wrote: Shah seems to be in the Ramprakash, Hick, Maynard, Sales, etc, mould. Good at County level but not test class. I think like Hick, for instance, he'll get "worked out" at that level and do little when it matters. We need to find players of quality (struggling to identify them) and Shah doesn't have it for me. Hope I'm proved wrong if he gets his chance. Not sure KP or others have confidence in him, you wouldn't field regularly at 3rd man if you felt he was part of the team (unless about to bowl the next over). Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St Tests 2 4 0 136 88 34.00 304 44.73 0 1 19 1 1 0 2 Test games and you can tell Owais Shah is no good,with a high score of 88 and an average of 34.?????????????? please explain............... |
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| Maidenover | Post subject: Re: KP, A tactical genius
Posted: 20:34 on 20th Jan 2009 |
Joined: 09:13 on 23rd Apr 2008 Posts: 2803 |
an average is only a reasonable measure if there's enough data, and for it to be a good indicator (of success) you need enough of the individual scores near the average (consistency). Four innings are not enough to judge because if, for example, you discount the 1st innings of 88 (as often the extremes are discounted), his average is only down to 16 in the other 3 innings (this will probably rise if we take out the lower extreme?), but then we are only looking at even less innings. What I'm trying to get across is once he gets, say, 20 innings (if he gets the chance) we can have another look. I suspect he may have more of a chance under Strauss than Pietersen, who as said farmed him out to the boundaries, but the selectors exclude the captain, I understand, so as he didn't get picked before, will he be picked now? |
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